Well now i'm going to write another sensitive post which of course about Abrahamic Beliefs. But this post will be about Islamic dogma i understood for i had been taught in this specific scope that way for perhaps about more than 10 years. And now i discovered this creed from another point of view and unfortunately found a peculiar uniformity which only led me into a deeper hesitation on religion.
So, this post is about the Bible, seen from the view of Islam. And there might be some Christian who is unable to understand or take this point of view. Please don't get offended, it's just some speculation popping in my head as someone who had been taught Islam and get a little lost on its fundamental theology.
Before we can move to the bottom line, i have some basic need-to-know stuff in order to understand the topic. I'll try to make it as clear as possible, and you can try to straightly ask me if you don't get it, especially those who haven't taught about Islam. And i don't really know whether or not this whole post is accurate, especially my understandings regarding other religions. Just please tell me the correction if i ever state something wrong.
Now, this topic needs you to be a little dogmatic to release the dogma itself in the end, Islamic dogma.
Islam demanded 6 faith commandments as the colonnade of being a Muslim. Faith in Allah, faith in His angels, faith in His scriptures, faith in His Messengers, faith in apocalypse, and faith in His omnipotence of good and bad. And this thought i'm having is about the 3rd commandment, His scriptures.
We all believe that Abrahamic religions descended from the very same root, i mean every each of it justify the previous religion(s) existence unless Judaism for it was the first to exist. Christian admits that Judaism is one of its God's gospel of the past, and Islam also admits Judaism and Christian as its God's gospels. And else, this belief, the faith of previous religion(s) existence, is written on each scriptures.
Therefore Islam, as this post is the view from Islam, demanded us to believe in not only Al Qur'an, but also in Taurat and Bible, and Islam also mentioned one other scripture that had been given toward Daud, Psalm. But Islam only demanded in believing the others' existence, not as Muslim's scripture.
Prophet and Messenger have differences in Islam, Prophet is only some sort of 'the chosen one' among ordinary people, while Messenger isn't only a prophet. God obliged His Messengers to propagate His gospel. And there are 4 messengers in Islam with 4 different scriptures we must believe in. Musa with Taurat, Daud with Psalm, Isa with Bible, and Muhammad with Al Qur'an. Scripture, for Islam, is His gospel that descended toward his Messengers, DIRECTLY toward His messenger with the unknown methods. Islam declared that every each of any scripture went directly toward His Messengers, not by any other way, it was completely direct, in the shape of verses. Scripture is His decrees, and the Messengers obliged to spread it toward human.
That's the more or less one of Islamic dogma that deals with the question, from the very point of view as a Muslim who tried to believe and instead stumbled on a, i'd rather to call it a glitch for i had not yet found any explanation provided, i'm having.
Sooooo, this is the bottom line. Check out the bible or ask any christian what is today's Bible contain of. It consists of Old Testament, and New Testament, am i correct? Old Testament is primarily Taurat isn't it? And the New Testament is the writings about Jesus' teachings and of person, which means that the New Testament is written by others, as far as i knew it was written by the 12 Apostles after Jesus' death, am i correct?
So... It bothers me.
Now, turn that reality into Islam's point of view. Islam is asking Muslims to have faith in Messengers' scriptures existence, including Bible, while we're having no idea of the Bible, that came DIRECTLY from God toward His Messenger, Isa, whereabouts. Today's Bible doesn't consist of what Islam always demands to believe in.
So where is this Islam's Bible?
Has it gone?
But ask yourself if it ever gone, is it possible for something as big as Bible to disappear? To completely disappear? Something that changed the world that significant, something that shifted the world that massive, something that STILL affecting the life of more than 4 billions people in the next 2 millenniums after its first day of revelation, tell me how if it is possible for something that big to completely disappear.
Well there is still probability for it to occur, like for an example, everybody knows how powerful The Roman Catholic Church in medieval age was. But i know one historical event that shown how impossible for this Islam's Bible to completely disappear since The Roman Catholic Church hadn't grown big enough to possibly commit such a great step, Nicaea Council. Nicene Creed resulted the consensus for the nature of the Son of God and his relationship to God the Father. How come this sort of event occurred? It spanned only less than 3 centuries from the first days of gospel's reign. How could it even possible to happen that God left unsettled misconception that huge in the gospel? How come the gospel that God gave DIRECTLY toward Isa didn't provide such a simple fundamental foundation of the gospel itself?
Or else, it never exists, the Bible that Islam asked Muslim to have faith in just simply never exists.
I don't know.
So, congratulation God, the obscurity of your very own decrees just successfully added one of your chosen and beloved creature to later live in your kingdom of hell.
So, this post is about the Bible, seen from the view of Islam. And there might be some Christian who is unable to understand or take this point of view. Please don't get offended, it's just some speculation popping in my head as someone who had been taught Islam and get a little lost on its fundamental theology.
Before we can move to the bottom line, i have some basic need-to-know stuff in order to understand the topic. I'll try to make it as clear as possible, and you can try to straightly ask me if you don't get it, especially those who haven't taught about Islam. And i don't really know whether or not this whole post is accurate, especially my understandings regarding other religions. Just please tell me the correction if i ever state something wrong.
Now, this topic needs you to be a little dogmatic to release the dogma itself in the end, Islamic dogma.
Islam demanded 6 faith commandments as the colonnade of being a Muslim. Faith in Allah, faith in His angels, faith in His scriptures, faith in His Messengers, faith in apocalypse, and faith in His omnipotence of good and bad. And this thought i'm having is about the 3rd commandment, His scriptures.
We all believe that Abrahamic religions descended from the very same root, i mean every each of it justify the previous religion(s) existence unless Judaism for it was the first to exist. Christian admits that Judaism is one of its God's gospel of the past, and Islam also admits Judaism and Christian as its God's gospels. And else, this belief, the faith of previous religion(s) existence, is written on each scriptures.
Therefore Islam, as this post is the view from Islam, demanded us to believe in not only Al Qur'an, but also in Taurat and Bible, and Islam also mentioned one other scripture that had been given toward Daud, Psalm. But Islam only demanded in believing the others' existence, not as Muslim's scripture.
Prophet and Messenger have differences in Islam, Prophet is only some sort of 'the chosen one' among ordinary people, while Messenger isn't only a prophet. God obliged His Messengers to propagate His gospel. And there are 4 messengers in Islam with 4 different scriptures we must believe in. Musa with Taurat, Daud with Psalm, Isa with Bible, and Muhammad with Al Qur'an. Scripture, for Islam, is His gospel that descended toward his Messengers, DIRECTLY toward His messenger with the unknown methods. Islam declared that every each of any scripture went directly toward His Messengers, not by any other way, it was completely direct, in the shape of verses. Scripture is His decrees, and the Messengers obliged to spread it toward human.
That's the more or less one of Islamic dogma that deals with the question, from the very point of view as a Muslim who tried to believe and instead stumbled on a, i'd rather to call it a glitch for i had not yet found any explanation provided, i'm having.
Sooooo, this is the bottom line. Check out the bible or ask any christian what is today's Bible contain of. It consists of Old Testament, and New Testament, am i correct? Old Testament is primarily Taurat isn't it? And the New Testament is the writings about Jesus' teachings and of person, which means that the New Testament is written by others, as far as i knew it was written by the 12 Apostles after Jesus' death, am i correct?
So... It bothers me.
Now, turn that reality into Islam's point of view. Islam is asking Muslims to have faith in Messengers' scriptures existence, including Bible, while we're having no idea of the Bible, that came DIRECTLY from God toward His Messenger, Isa, whereabouts. Today's Bible doesn't consist of what Islam always demands to believe in.
So where is this Islam's Bible?
Has it gone?
But ask yourself if it ever gone, is it possible for something as big as Bible to disappear? To completely disappear? Something that changed the world that significant, something that shifted the world that massive, something that STILL affecting the life of more than 4 billions people in the next 2 millenniums after its first day of revelation, tell me how if it is possible for something that big to completely disappear.
Well there is still probability for it to occur, like for an example, everybody knows how powerful The Roman Catholic Church in medieval age was. But i know one historical event that shown how impossible for this Islam's Bible to completely disappear since The Roman Catholic Church hadn't grown big enough to possibly commit such a great step, Nicaea Council. Nicene Creed resulted the consensus for the nature of the Son of God and his relationship to God the Father. How come this sort of event occurred? It spanned only less than 3 centuries from the first days of gospel's reign. How could it even possible to happen that God left unsettled misconception that huge in the gospel? How come the gospel that God gave DIRECTLY toward Isa didn't provide such a simple fundamental foundation of the gospel itself?
Or else, it never exists, the Bible that Islam asked Muslim to have faith in just simply never exists.
I don't know.
So, congratulation God, the obscurity of your very own decrees just successfully added one of your chosen and beloved creature to later live in your kingdom of hell.
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